this emanates from their perception of their religion and whether religion is demanding of them. now, they may get to that because of psychological problems they have, but when they get to it their all joined in the same motivation. so asking how can we and some broad sense stop that, we can't. but on a smaller level we can try. i mean, in a smaller level we could try to engage more with moderate, sensible mainstream members of the muslim and islamic community, of which there are level. we could try to encourage them more to step out on this. i'm going to tell you a totally unrelated story but as part of how i think about all this. when i was united states attorney, the first thing i begin pursuing was the mafia. and then after bringing my first case against the mafia i was criticized for using the word mafia. not only was i criticized for using it, it was demanded that i be removed from office because it violated justice department guidelines that you couldn't use the word mafia. there was a guideline that have been put in at the behest of the italian-american civil rights commi